*** DEBUG START ***
*** DEBUG END ***

Radio review: Kate McCann and Stig Abell with Times Radio Breakfast, Front Row, and Sunday

16 March 2026

Gerry Lynch listens to a discussion on churchgoing, a programme on the continuing appeal of St Francis of Assisi, and another highlighting the voices of Iranian Christians

Times Radio

Stig Abell and Kate McCann discussed people who had become recent churchgoers, on Times Radio’s breakfast show (Thursday)

Stig Abell and Kate McCann discussed people who had become recent churchgoers, on Times Radio’s breakfast show (Thursday)

ANOTHER sign of changing times came on Kate McCann and Stig Abell with Times Radio Breakfast (Thursday), when they discussed Esther Walker’s piece in that day’s paper about starting to go to church, not because she believed in God, but because she believed in a “God-shaped hole”.

The journalist Muriel Zagha had been on a similar journey: raised in Paris by a secular Jewish father and by a lapsed Roman Catholic mother who had been put off by the nuns who educated her, she was now “coming out” as a Church of England churchgoer. It had felt “counter-cultural” during Covid, Ms Zagha said, and the beauty of the buildings, music, and the Book of Common Prayer had drawn her in, as had a couple of hours’ “freedom from the slavery of phones”. Making new friends had also appealed. True faith? As Pope Francis might have said, “Who am I to judge?”

There is no doubt about the faith of St Francis of Assisi. To mark the 800th anniversary of his death, Front Row (Radio 4, Wednesday) caught up with Dr Joost Joustra, of King’s College, London, and with one of the Church of England’s most recognisable characters, Brother Samuel SSF, on the legacy of a punk-rock saint whose appeal goes “well beyond Catholicism”.

Brother Samuel explained St Francis’s continuing appeal in terms of the captivating story of his life: a rich young man who disinherited himself and followed Lady Poverty, preached to the birds, respected Muslims, and, by force of personality, gathered a band of Brothers.

Dr Joustra noted that, within decades of Francis’s death, his story was being depicted in churches by some of the finest artists of the day. Some scholars have even argued that his emphasis on God’s creation sparked the Renaissance.

For Brother Samuel, embracing a leper was the key moment in the saint’s life. He had once found the condition repulsive, until a chance encounter with a beggar transfigured his understanding.

Was St Francis the first punk? The rock legend Patti Smith, who wrote a ballad for him, said that, when she thought of St Francis, “I don’t think of religion. I don’t think of rules and regulations [but] his absolute love of life.”

The voices of Iranian Christians have largely been absent from the coverage of the continuing war. A rare exception was the interview on Sunday (Radio 4) with a priest in the diocese of Coventry, the Revd Mohammad Eghtedarian, and his wife, Maryam. Mr Eghtedarian had mixed feelings: there was a need for change, but war was probably not the answer.

From limited communications with family at home, Mrs Eghtedarian had gleaned mixed feelings, too — “a glimpse of hope” for a better Iran, but also terrible difficulties in surviving chaotic war conditions, with a collapsed economy and food shortages.

Browse Church and Charity jobs on the Church Times jobsite

Church Times Bookshop

Save money on books reviewed or featured in the Church Times. To get your reader discount:

> Click on the “Church Times Bookshop” link at the end of the review.

> Call 01603 785905 (Mon-Fri, 10am-4pm).

The reader discount is valid for two months after the review publication date. E&OE

Forthcoming Events

Church Times Festival of Preaching 2026

13 - 15 September 2026

An event to inspire, nurture, and celebrate all who are called to proclaim the gospel today.

tickets available now

English Mystics Series course

26 January - 25 May 2026

A short course at Sarum College.

tickets available now 

Visit our Events page for upcoming and past events

The Church Times Archive

Read reports from issues stretching back to 1863, search for your parish or see if any of the clergy you know get a mention.

FREE for Church Times subscribers.

Explore the archive

Welcome to the Church Times

To explore the Church Times website fully, please sign in or subscribe.

New to us? Non-subscribers can read up to four free articles a month. Simply sign up for a free account to receive the Church Times newsletter, plus exclusive offers and events, straight to your inbox. As a thank you for joining us, we are also currently offering a £5 discount for the Church House Bookshop online (valid for one order of £30 or more). See your welcome email for details.