Francis Martin, a reporter for the Church Times, was travelling last week with the Archbishop of Canterbury in Ukraine.

On the final day of the trip, Francis interviewed Archbishop Welby, asking about what he had hoped to achieve, the differences he had noticed from his previous visit in 2022, and about tensions between the Orthodox Churches in Ukraine. They also spoke about the challenges currently facing the Church of England, and how the Archbishop divides his time.

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