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Cole Arthur Riley in conversation with Chine McDonald

31 March 2022

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Cole Arthur Riley is a writer, liturgist, and poet, and the creator of Black Liturgies, “a project seeking to integrate concepts of dignity, lament, rage, justice, rest, and liberation with literature and spirituality”.

On this week’s podcast, she talks about her debut book This Here Flesh: Spirituality, liberation and the stories that make us, which is a New York Times bestseller. An edited extract is published in this week’s Church Times (1 April).

Cole is in conversation with Chine McDonald, director of Theos, whose latest book is God is Not a White Man: And other revelations (Hodder & Stoughton) (Podcast, 28 May 2021; (Books, 11 June 2021)

This Here Flesh is published by John Murray Press and is available to buy from the Church Times Bookshop for the discounted price of £14.99.


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