On the podcast this week, rapper and playwright Testament interviews Leroy Logan, former superintendent in the Metropolitan police and co-founder of the National Black Police Association.

They discuss Logan’s forthcoming book, Closing Ranks: My Life as a Cop – including his early experiences as a black police officer and his founding of the NBPA — as well as his faith, family, and what he hopes the Black Lives Matter movement will achieve. 

“I knew I was going into certain corridors of power and He had to be with me . . . and if I went into any situation operationally or strategically. . . I wasn’t on my own, I’ve got the heavenly host behind me. . . I’ve got the Holy Spirit. . . But I had to be totally adherent to what the Lord was telling me to do and how to do it.”

Logan’s story is being adapted by Steve McQueen as part of the BBC’s Small Axe series, starring John Boyega and due to be released later this month.

You can read an edited transcript of the interview in this week’s Church Times (11 September).a

Podcast edited by Serena Long.

Closing Ranks: My Life as a Cop will be published by SPCK on 17 September at £14.99 (Church Times Bookshop £13.50) 

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