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Interview: Martin Short, operations manager, Greenbelt Festival

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24 August 2012

'It's the whole mixture of things which is really exciting'

My first experience of Greenbelt was visiting on a daily basis, staying at home with friends near by at Odell in 1980.

After I'd spent two years as a Greenbelter, a friend asked me to help out on the stage-stewarding team in the "pit" when we were at Knebworth. As I had seen U2 the previous year, it seemed a good idea. I say "pit", but a rope was all we had.

It was through volunteering at a CPAS pathfinder camp at Criccieth that I ended up getting involved with Greenbelt. I also helped out at Solas this year. It's a Scottish Christian arts festival, again with stewards. I've done a number of other festivals, too.

Greenbelt is my favourite, closely followed by Solas, which grew out of Greenbelt. They needed experienced help with the stewarding at short notice; so I went, and really enjoyed it.

We try to ask: how can we make that happen in a positive and safe way?

I am Priest-in-Charge at St Mary's, Rawtenstall, and St Paul's, Constable Lee, in Manchester diocese.

Greenbelt has changed a lot: there have been five different sites: from Greenfields to Cheltenham racecourse; from a massive 25,000-plus to 2000. Now it's back to 20,000. It's had its moments - sometimes only on the edge, but for some, well over it. Today it seems far more comfortable with its identity: still edgy, but confident, and challenging people where they are to think about being somewhere else in their journey with God.

When I started, you staked your claim in the mainstage arena, and some stayed there all day. Now, there is just so much more to experience.

Nowadays, I don't get to see much, or sit and listen. As festival operations manager, I don't get to go to things, but I actually get a lot of different samples. It's the whole mixture of things which is really exciting - and sometimes you come across something, like a bit of installation art, which you're not expecting, or a street performance called "A Trip to the Arctic".

I get a sense of being part of something that is not only significant, but unique. I've also made some long and lasting friendships, and continue to make more each year.

Amazing things happen. When I used to run the stage stewarding, we were doing an interview on mainstage with Cliff Richard on a Sunday morning, and four rows of Cliff fans turned up to see him. We had to move two trailers to the mainstage, so had to move the fans back to stop them being trapped between the trailers and stage. But they all pushed the stewards back as hard as they could. They were "mature adults" on the whole, but they told me: "He has to see us!"

Later that evening, there was a young crowd of 15,000 dancing away, when someone fell down. I stood up on the barrier and waved my arms around, and they just parted like the Red Sea for the ambulance people. I got people to applaud the crowd at the end. Those who were there to see Cliff wouldn't have moved. Really surprising, that.

I'm not really frightened when there's a problem with a big crowd. I'm just doing my job. I trust in the good nature of Greenbelt crowds, and have confidence in the others working with me. You build up a relationship, caring for people and responding to them. There is a sense of the "Greenbelt family" among those who volunteer, and especially the stewards.

My family's there. I'm married to Liz, who works as part of the control room at Greenbelt (we get to speak on the radio); and Matthew, who's 27. He didn't come to Greenbelt until he was 16, and now he's a stewards' team manager. And there's Rebekah, who's 25. She came to Greenbelt, but was soon involved, and now is one of the front-desk managers.

I really wanted to work on the railway. But I became a teacher, and I'm now a vicar.

I am constantly amazed by the breadth of church experience that you find at Greenbelt. It certainly informs and enlivens things, as those who attend take back not only the experience, but also the questions. It is a safe and yet edgy space.

I've had the privilege this year of spending time with the Amos Trust in Palestine, through being challenged by the Greenbelt programme over the past few years. I've been very interested in that situation for a very long time; so to actually go and see it for myself has been quite a life-changing experience in many ways.

One of the villages we went to visit was on the news recently: three farmers attacked by settlers, one hospitalised and his crop burned. They've been intimidated off their land. Greenbelt tries to encourage people to stand with those who are facing so much injustice.

The situation in the Occupied Territories, and the blindness of those who just claim it is their land because the Bible says so - that makes me angry.

Then, two weeks later, I spent a week on Iona - reflecting, looking forward, and experiencing in a different place that balance of so many contradictions. That was a Greenbelt week of activities - doing Greenbelt in a very small way, and being part of it rather than helping to run it.

Next year will be the 40th year of Greenbelt; so we were also dreaming dreams for the birthday. It's still a rebellious child.

No, I didn't watch the Olympics. I was on holiday on a campsite in Cornwall; but I would have liked to see Team GB hockey: I still play as a goalkeeper at Bolton Hockey Club, where I also volunteer as a committee member.

I married Liz in 1980. She lets me do so much, like Pathfinder Camp, Greenbelt, even when the children were small. She's always supported me, although she married a teacher, not a vicar.

I really regret those moments when you realise that a few more minutes could have made so much difference.

I'd like to be remembered for being someone who encourages others to find God, and to be the best person they can.

A memorable sermon? "It's Friday today, but Sunday's a-coming."

My favourite place is anywhere with friends. Or on a ski slope.

I like the Bible when, suddenly, God speaks through one of those familiar passages in a new and relevant way. Or when you don't quite get the clear answer that you would like.

My favourite sound? Waves on the shore.

I'm happiest seeing others striving and succeeding - or just smiling, having tried.

I pray for the Church to raise its eyes above the lines we so often want to draw in the sand, and to see that Jesus did not draw lines to separate, but to accept, and not condemn.

Martin Luther King Jr inspires me. And Papa Smurf: that's my nick-name now. I really like reading Stephen Lawhead, Terry Pratchett, Rob Bell, and Tom Wright.

I'd like to be locked in a church with Tom Wright, John Bell, and Rob Bell. Wow! What a conversation!

The Revd Martin Short was talking to Terence Handley MacMath.

 

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