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Bishop Gene Robinson: the debate continues

From Mr Mike Whiting
Sir, — After reading the interview with Gene Robinson (Features, 2 May), I am compelled to focus on his response to the remark: “But conservatives say it’s not about sexuality: it’s a scripture issue.”

Bishop Robinson, like all gay Christians, chooses to use Leviticus as an example of opponents’ being inconsistent in their interpretation of scripture. This gays somehow consider to be justification of their position, along with such excuses as “out of Jesus’s own mouth came the words that remarriage after divorce is adultery, and yet the Church has changed its mind.”

We know the Church has changed its mind, but God hasn’t. The Church needs to beware.

The real scripture issue is found in Genesis 2.24 and Matthew 19.4-6. In everything I’ve read, trying to understand the gay biblical position, these verses are always either ignored or sidestepped. When gays can provide a scriptural response that shows the combination of Genesis 2.24 and Matthew 19.4-6 does not mean “one man and one woman for life”, then they will have a case.

It is an immense pity that the Church does not present these scriptures as the “irrefutable position”. In doing so, it would enable church leaders to focus on dealing with the dilemma faced by our gay brothers and sisters.

MIKE WHITING
21 The Brucks
Wateringbury ME18 5PX

From the Revd Jonathan Frais
Sir, — The Rt Revd Gene Robinson calls himself “orthodox”, but his interview suggests otherwise.

First, Moses’s ban on multi-cloth garments is civil law and not the moral law that binds us today (Article VII).

Second, marrying after divorce in the lifetime of a previous partner remains wrong (best practice uses the service of prayer and dedication after civil marriage, and bars from leadership).

Third, Gamaliel’s words, like Pilate’s hand-washing, led to violence and so evade responsibility.

Fourth, breaking table fellowship is not “unfaithful”, but our Lord’s command (Matthew 18).

JONATHAN FRAIS
11 Coverdale Avenue
Bexhill TN39 4TY

From Mr Richard Wilkins
Sir, — I thank Bishop Gene Robinson for his gracious and courteous interview. Limited time, however, may have forced him to compress ideas about the Bible that he did not mean to express.

When he says that some of his opponents have been divorced and remarried, he could be mistakenly understood to mean: “If they don’t let the words of Jesus stand in the way of their sexual happiness, why should I?” Elsewhere in his interview, he explicitly deplores the exaggerated importance of sex. I am sure he maintains consistently that Jesus is more important than sex.

Regarding verses in Leviticus, I wonder if anyone has read those referring to same-sex intercourse in their context of chapters 18 to 20. There is not much about mixed-cloth garments or dual-crop fields. Bishop Robinson would be the last person to “curse the deaf or trip the blind” (19.14). Nor would he see “loving our neighbours as ourselves” (19.18) as liable to a wise Church’s progressive neglect. But the Church might very soon be called to qualify what really is a major theme of these chapters.

Argentina, Brazil, and Japan have recently legalised incest (The Guardian, 27 February 2007), as did France under Napoleon. Other European countries are likely to follow; and a 2003 judgment of the US Supreme Court removed legal interest not only in how, but with whom, consenting adults have sex.

This is about more than treatment of incest as an illness, like the 1957 Wolfenden report on homosexuality. It represents an increasingly generous and accepting attitude towards intra-family relationships, quite parallel with the developing consensus on gay partnerships. The case for recognition of loving, faithful, stable, intentionally permanent intra-family unions seems overwhelming. Legalised incest in England will lead inexorably to civil partnerships.

Do I want this? Well, no, but I am an unreconstructed Evangelical. I should like to be sure that the Church of England is thinking ahead on incest, more competently than it did on homosexuality. But I suspect that again the voice of Gamaliel will prevail, until the voice of God is finally heard through people whose opinions are deemed worthy of polite attention.

RICHARD WILKINS
27 Spring Gardens, Garston
Watford, Herts WD25 9JJ



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